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<DIV>This substantiates what I have said that I don't think it is an
agency.</DIV>
<DIV>1. If they are getting the information off of geocaching.com then the
owners name would be listed and they could contact that person via e-mail
through geocaching.com to inform them of any problem.</DIV>
<DIV>2. Why would an agency be concerned with a "nano" that anyone not in
the loop would even find or see.</DIV>
<DIV>3. The approval for expenses printing the labels would have to come out
of some department budget and things being as tight as they are I don't
think this would be a priority.</DIV>
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<DIV>Mel </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>From:</B> <A
title=mailto:jscotti@pirl.lpl.Arizona.EDU
href="mailto:jscotti@pirl.lpl.Arizona.EDU">Jim Scotti</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 17, 2008 4:49
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Az-Geocaching] Another
cache bites the dust</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>In the early days of geocaching down here in Tucson, several
geocaches were <BR>placed in the National Parks around town before we all
understood the NPS <BR>rules regarding caches and a park ranger who was also a
geocacher and had <BR>visited many caches in the area was presumably "put in
charge" to remove any <BR>caches that violated the NPS rules. I had the
impression that the ranger was <BR>given the task by superiors. So I
wouldn't rule out an agency taking the <BR>trouble to remove
geocaches.<BR><BR>BTW, I had a geocache down here at the base of Cat Mountain
off of Ajo road <BR>which was on a side trail off the main trail from Sarasota
Blvd. The trail <BR>had been maintained not long before one of my visits
to the cache, so I felt <BR>that it was placed in an area that met all
requirements. So a week or two <BR>after my last visit, I got an e-mail
from a city police officer who was in <BR>charge of the Tucson Mountain Park
area saying that he had my geocache. It <BR>turns out that the trail I
had found was a "wildcat trail" that he had been <BR>trying to close to
preserve the area and someone had been maintaining the <BR>trail against his
wishes. He placed a trail closed post were it left the <BR>main trail
with his business card attached. I was happy to cooperate with <BR>him
and he was very geocache friendly, offering to check out possible
<BR>placement sites in the area and in fact, I replaced the cache (with a new
<BR>name) less than half a mile away not far off the main trail where it still
<BR>sits today. So agencies will do what they need to and generally are
friendly <BR>to work with (with a few notable exceptions), especially if you
follow the <BR>rules and if you talk with them when in
doubt.<BR><BR>Jim.<BR><BR>On Mon, 17 Nov 2008, MEL HOCKWITT wrote:<BR><BR>>
I wonder is there is a contact on the sticker as to whom made it (print
<BR>> shop) I don't think this was done by a official agency but someone
who is <BR>> against Geocaching. I agree that the cache is usually
hidden so someone <BR>> must have the coordinates in order to find it,
don't think any agency would <BR>> go to that trouble just to remove a
cache that is out of sight.<BR>><BR>> Mel<BR><BR>I'm not normally a
religious man, but if you're up there, save me,<BR>Superman! - Homer
Simpson<BR>----------<BR>Jim Scotti<BR>Lunar & Planetary
Laboratory<BR>University of Arizona<BR>Tucson, AZ 85721
USA
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