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<DIV>Mark, FYI I live next to Oro Valley in unincorporated Pima County.
Let me know when you get here and we can get together.</DIV>
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<DIV>Mel</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>From:</B> <A
title=mailto:mrkfleming@gmail.com href="mailto:mrkfleming@gmail.com">Mark
Fleming</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Az-Geocaching] Southwest
Trails for Garmin GPS Receivers?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Hi Mel,<BR><BR>Thanks for the feedback! I probably will go for
it, if nothing else as a learning exercise, and as a way to give something
back to the geocaching community. I'll let you know when I have a place set up
to upload tracks for trails, etc.<BR><BR>Thanks!<BR><BR>Mark
(GoNorthWest)<BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:05 PM, MEL HOCKWITT <SPAN
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<DIV>Mark, I think what you propose has a lot of value. The AZ topo
seems to be off on the location of waypoints/caches when compared to the
Garmin Topo 2008. The AZ topo is more detailed but I think the Topo
2008 is good also. I do a lot of back country driving and have quite a
few trails/tracks saved for future use. If someone is willing to
develop an overlay that can be used so I don't have to download the tracks
all the time that would be very helpful.</DIV>
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<DIV>I would be willing to provide as much data as I can for the overlay if
that will help.</DIV>
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<DIV>Go for it!</DIV>
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<DIV>Mel</DIV></FONT>
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Re: [Az-Geocaching] Southwest Trails for Garmin GPS Receivers?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Your opinion is absolutely valued. Just trying to generate
some healthy discussion.<BR><BR>Thanks!<BR><BR>Mark<BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 8:31 PM, ShadowAce <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A title=mailto:shadowace.az@gmail.com
href="mailto:shadowace.az@gmail.com" target=_blank>shadowace.az@</A><A
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target=_blank>gmail.com</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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persons opinion is that of the wind..<BR><BR> Mine was only a
drifting suggestion placed out to pass along before<BR>it fades to
nothing..<BR><BR> Now it is gone.<BR>
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<DIV><BR>On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 7:46 PM, Mark Fleming <<A
title=mailto:mrkfleming@gmail.com href="mailto:mrkfleming@gmail.com"
target=_blank>mrkfleming@gmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR>> That would be
one option. The limitation I see with that is that what<BR>>
Moun10bike has done is create a map overlay of trails for the Northwest.
So,<BR>> it can be loaded on the same media as your topo maps, City
Navigator, or<BR>> whatever. The downside is that if you want to
upgrade to the latest version<BR>> of the trails overlay, you have to
rebuild the maps on your card.<BR>><BR>> Mark<BR>><BR>> On
Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 7:42 PM, ShadowAce <<A
title=http://shadowace.az/ href="http://shadowace.az"
target=_blank>shadowace.az</A>@<A title=http://gmail.com/
href="http://gmail.com" target=_blank>gmail.com</A>>
wrote:<BR>>><BR>>> <A
title=http://www.gpsfiledepot.com/maps/view/1/
href="http://www.gpsfiledepot.com/maps/view/1/"
target=_blank>http://www.gpsfiledepot.com/maps/view/1/</A><BR>>><BR>>>
Provide your Trails tracks to him and he will incorporate it into
the<BR>>> Topographic map data.. I think this is much more
useful then a set of<BR>>> tracks that I have to update and
remember to grab before leaving for a<BR>>> trip. If the trails
are on the map I no longer have the limit of only<BR>>> X number
of tracks in a GPSr.<BR>>><BR>>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at
7:15 PM, Mark Fleming <<A title=mailto:mrkfleming@gmail.com
href="mailto:mrkfleming@gmail.com"
target=_blank>mrkfleming@gmail.com</A>><BR>>>
wrote:<BR>>> > Hi,<BR>>> ><BR>>> > I'm a
geocacher from Oro Valley, AZ, currently living in Seattle,
WA,<BR>>> > but<BR>>> > moving back to Oro Valley in
December. I've been up here on a temporary<BR>>> > assignment
with my company, and it was while I was up here that I<BR>>> >
started<BR>>> > geocaching. One of the uber cachers in the
area, Moun10bike, has an<BR>>> > amazing<BR>>> >
project going called Northwest Trails, that I would like to replicate
in<BR>>> > the<BR>>> > southwest if it doesn't already
exists. Moun10bike has this to say about<BR>>> >
his<BR>>> > project (<A
title=http://www.switchbacks.com/maps/NW_Trails.html
href="http://www.switchbacks.com/maps/NW_Trails.html"
target=_blank>http://www.switchbacks.com/maps/NW_Trails.html</A>):<BR>>>
><BR>>> > "In short, Northwest Trails is a mapset of trails
designed for upload to<BR>>> > any<BR>>> > map-enabled
Garmin GPS receiver. It is more than just a mapset, though;<BR>>>
> it<BR>>> > is also a community effort initiated to record
and collect GPS data for<BR>>> > trails in the Northwest
(Washington, Idaho, Oregon, Montana, Wyoming,<BR>>> > British
Columbia and Alaska) and provide that data for general
public<BR>>> > use."<BR>>> ><BR>>> > I'm
proposing doing the same thing for the southwest portion of
the<BR>>> > United<BR>>> > States, which is defined on
the web as "the southwestern region of the<BR>>> > United
States generally including New Mexico, Arizona, Texas,
Nevada,<BR>>> > California, and sometimes Utah and Colorad."
Since this listserv is for<BR>>> > Arizona, and since I'll be
living back there soon, I'd like to start<BR>>> >
there.<BR>>> ><BR>>> > Is this an interesting idea to
anybody? Is this already underway<BR>>> >
somewhere?<BR>>> > If people find it interesting, and it's not
already underway, I'd like<BR>>> > to<BR>>> > start
collecting tracks for inclusion. Let me know what you think!<BR>>>
><BR>>> > Thanks,<BR>>> ><BR>>> > Mark
(GoNorthWest)<BR>>> ><BR>>> >
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