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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>From:</B> <A
title=mailto:mrkfleming@gmail.com href="mailto:mrkfleming@gmail.com">Mark
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, October 30, 2008 11:01
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Az-Geocaching] Southwest
Trails for Garmin GPS Receivers?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Sounds good! What's your <A title=http://geocaching.com/
href="http://geocaching.com">geocaching.com</A> ID?<BR><BR>Mark
(GoNorthWest)<BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:41 PM, MEL HOCKWITT <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A title=mailto:melhockwitt@msn.com
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<DIV>Mark, FYI I live next to Oro Valley in unincorporated Pima
County. Let me know when you get here and we can get together.</DIV>
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<DIV>Mel</DIV></FONT>
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Re: [Az-Geocaching] Southwest Trails for Garmin GPS Receivers?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Hi Mel,<BR><BR>Thanks for the feedback! I probably will go
for it, if nothing else as a learning exercise, and as a way to give
something back to the geocaching community. I'll let you know when I have
a place set up to upload tracks for trails,
etc.<BR><BR>Thanks!<BR><BR>Mark (GoNorthWest)<BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:05 PM, MEL HOCKWITT
<SPAN dir=ltr><<A title=mailto:melhockwitt@msn.com
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<DIV>Mark, I think what you propose has a lot of value. The AZ
topo seems to be off on the location of waypoints/caches when compared
to the Garmin Topo 2008. The AZ topo is more detailed but I think
the Topo 2008 is good also. I do a lot of back country driving and
have quite a few trails/tracks saved for future use. If someone is
willing to develop an overlay that can be used so I don't have to
download the tracks all the time that would be very helpful.</DIV>
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<DIV>I would be willing to provide as much data as I can for the overlay
if that will help.</DIV>
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<DIV>Go for it!</DIV>
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<DIV>Mel</DIV></FONT>
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Re: [Az-Geocaching] Southwest Trails for Garmin GPS Receivers?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Your opinion is absolutely valued. Just trying to
generate some healthy discussion.<BR><BR>Thanks!<BR><BR>Mark<BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 8:31 PM, ShadowAce
<SPAN dir=ltr><<A title=mailto:shadowace.az@gmail.com
href="mailto:shadowace.az@gmail.com" target=_blank>shadowace.az@</A><A
title=http://gmail.com/ href="http://gmail.com"
target=_blank>gmail.com</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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persons opinion is that of the wind..<BR><BR> Mine was only a
drifting suggestion placed out to pass along before<BR>it fades to
nothing..<BR><BR> Now it is gone.<BR>
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<DIV><BR>On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 7:46 PM, Mark Fleming <<A
title=mailto:mrkfleming@gmail.com href="mailto:mrkfleming@gmail.com"
target=_blank>mrkfleming@gmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR>> That would
be one option. The limitation I see with that is that what<BR>>
Moun10bike has done is create a map overlay of trails for the
Northwest. So,<BR>> it can be loaded on the same media as your
topo maps, City Navigator, or<BR>> whatever. The downside is that
if you want to upgrade to the latest version<BR>> of the trails
overlay, you have to rebuild the maps on your card.<BR>><BR>>
Mark<BR>><BR>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 7:42 PM, ShadowAce
<<A title=http://shadowace.az/ href="http://shadowace.az"
target=_blank>shadowace.az</A>@<A title=http://gmail.com/
href="http://gmail.com" target=_blank>gmail.com</A>>
wrote:<BR>>><BR>>> <A
title=http://www.gpsfiledepot.com/maps/view/1/
href="http://www.gpsfiledepot.com/maps/view/1/"
target=_blank>http://www.gpsfiledepot.com/maps/view/1/</A><BR>>><BR>>>
Provide your Trails tracks to him and he will incorporate it
into the<BR>>> Topographic map data.. I think this is
much more useful then a set of<BR>>> tracks that I have to
update and remember to grab before leaving for a<BR>>> trip.
If the trails are on the map I no longer have the limit of
only<BR>>> X number of tracks in a
GPSr.<BR>>><BR>>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 7:15 PM, Mark
Fleming <<A title=mailto:mrkfleming@gmail.com
href="mailto:mrkfleming@gmail.com"
target=_blank>mrkfleming@gmail.com</A>><BR>>>
wrote:<BR>>> > Hi,<BR>>> ><BR>>> > I'm a
geocacher from Oro Valley, AZ, currently living in Seattle,
WA,<BR>>> > but<BR>>> > moving back to Oro Valley
in December. I've been up here on a temporary<BR>>> >
assignment with my company, and it was while I was up here that
I<BR>>> > started<BR>>> > geocaching. One of the
uber cachers in the area, Moun10bike, has an<BR>>> >
amazing<BR>>> > project going called Northwest Trails, that
I would like to replicate in<BR>>> > the<BR>>> >
southwest if it doesn't already exists. Moun10bike has this to say
about<BR>>> > his<BR>>> > project (<A
title=http://www.switchbacks.com/maps/NW_Trails.html
href="http://www.switchbacks.com/maps/NW_Trails.html"
target=_blank>http://www.switchbacks.com/maps/NW_Trails.html</A>):<BR>>>
><BR>>> > "In short, Northwest Trails is a mapset of
trails designed for upload to<BR>>> > any<BR>>> >
map-enabled Garmin GPS receiver. It is more than just a mapset,
though;<BR>>> > it<BR>>> > is also a community
effort initiated to record and collect GPS data for<BR>>> >
trails in the Northwest (Washington, Idaho, Oregon, Montana,
Wyoming,<BR>>> > British Columbia and Alaska) and provide
that data for general public<BR>>> > use."<BR>>>
><BR>>> > I'm proposing doing the same thing for the
southwest portion of the<BR>>> > United<BR>>> >
States, which is defined on the web as "the southwestern region of
the<BR>>> > United States generally including New Mexico,
Arizona, Texas, Nevada,<BR>>> > California, and sometimes
Utah and Colorad." Since this listserv is for<BR>>> >
Arizona, and since I'll be living back there soon, I'd like to
start<BR>>> > there.<BR>>> ><BR>>> > Is
this an interesting idea to anybody? Is this already
underway<BR>>> > somewhere?<BR>>> > If people find
it interesting, and it's not already underway, I'd like<BR>>>
> to<BR>>> > start collecting tracks for inclusion. Let
me know what you think!<BR>>> ><BR>>> >
Thanks,<BR>>> ><BR>>> > Mark
(GoNorthWest)<BR>>> ><BR>>> >
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