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<DIV>If we apply the logic of "users should pay the bulk of the costs" that
should work for school taxes, we don't have children of school age but still
have to pay the bulk of our taxes for education, most senior citizens are paying
for schooling of younger adults. I don't have a problem with it but it
should carry forward to state land use and let "all" people fund the use.</DIV>
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<DIV>My $.02 worth.</DIV>
<DIV>Mel</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>From:</B> <A
title=mailto:creepinjeepers@cox.net
href="mailto:creepinjeepers@cox.net">Geocaching 7/01</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com
href="mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com">listserv@azgeocaching.com</A> ; <A
title=mailto:bill@freeholder.com
href="mailto:bill@freeholder.com">bill@freeholder.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, July 24, 2008 7:31
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Az-Geocaching] Increase in
State Land use permit</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I wonder if any of this cost increase is part of
the off-road vehicle damage restoration effort, or will that be another
increase in the near future.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>As I understand, a fishing or hunting license
provides permit to use state lands--expect that to change.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I agree with Bill, users should pay the bulk of
the costs--I hope this is a better model than the gas tax fund.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=mailto:bill@freeholder.com href="mailto:bill@freeholder.com">Bill
Nolan</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com
href="mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com">listserv@azgeocaching.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 23, 2008 10:10
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Az-Geocaching] Increase
in State Land use permit</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Well,
I expect that this may be an unpopular point of view.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">As
some have mentioned, state trust lands and national forest lands are public
lands, which means that they are owned by the people, so I can look upon
them as "my" lands, and that is not an incorrect way to look at them.
That immediately brings up the question which has been raised here in this
thread: "Why should I have to pay a fee to use my own
land?"<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Just
because it is public land doesn't mean that it is free of costs. There
are fences, roads, and other facilities to maintain. There are
services, such as law enforcement, wildlife management, cleanup, etc. that
have to be provided. These things cost money, so the next question is:
"Who should pay?"<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">These
costs can be paid for by either a general tax or by user fees (or a
combination of the two). Personally, I have no problem with the users
of these areas bearing a higher proportion of the costs in the form of user
fees. Why should people with no interest in entering or using these
areas bear the cost so that someone who does use the area can do so without
paying a fee? Nope, I think it is very fair for those who use the
areas to pay a fee, and, as the costs go up, so should the
fees.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Bill
in Willcox<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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