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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Verdana'>Why is it that a guy who hardly caches at all, and a guy
who lives in Montana are so vocal on an Arizona Geocaching Listserve?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Jake Olson<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Saturday, May 05, 2007 2:46
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">listserv@azgeocaching.com</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Az-Geocaching]
Adopting a cache</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I coudl see where if a new cache was placed by a new cacher was within
the .10 mile area that they would refuse to un-archive it... but because of the
container missing???<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Jake - Team A.I.<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmailquote><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>On 5/5/07, <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Brian
Casteel</span></b> <<a href="mailto:bcasteel@uccinc.net">bcasteel@uccinc.net</a>>
wrote:</span></font></span> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Funny. Just last month I had a MIA cache un-archived when it
was replaced.<br>
<br>
Brian - Team A.I.<br>
<br>
<st1:PersonName w:st="on">AZcachemeister</st1:PersonName> wrote:<br>
> HA! Well that's a new 'RULE' I have never heard of! The container<br>
> going missing isn't the issue, it's his way of saying he doesn't want<br>
> it done, and he is going to throw his weight around to get his way. <br>
> I say you should cut it short, hide your new cache and reference the<br>
> old one in some way. You can put whatever you want in the 'Hidden By'<br>
> box!<br>
> Then very clearly state that this is a replacement cache, and that <br>
> finders of the previous cache will have their logs deleted. The only<br>
> thing preventing anyone from posting multiple logs on any cache is<br>
> their conscience and the owner's diligence in deleting them. I would, <br>
> however, recommend allowing notes by previous finders, just as should<br>
> be allowed for any cache.<br>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
><br>
><br>
> Bob & Linda Smith wrote: <br>
>> I started with RoadRunner and never got a reply so I went to GC.com<br>
>> and Michael stepped in. He is saying something about,
"once a<br>
>> container is missing the cache can no longer be
un-archived" He has <br>
>> not told me that any business has contacted GC. He
suggested I post<br>
>> a new page, using the same name, etc. I don't want to do
that, I<br>
>> want to keep it all the same, using the original cachers name and <br>
>> just appending my name after his. I don't want a new page
where<br>
>> someone who has found it before can log a new find. It's a
great bit<br>
>> of history and a bench mark is close by. I've sent him
another <br>
>> missile and hope it hits the mark.<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks folks,<br>
>> Bob Smith, Team Petite Elite<br>
>><br>
>> ----- Original Message -----<br>
>> *From:* <st1:PersonName w:st="on">AZcachemeister</st1:PersonName>
<mailto: <a href="mailto:azcachemeister@getnet.com">azcachemeister@getnet.com</a>><br>
>> *To:* <a
href="mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com">listserv@azgeocaching.com</a>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com">
listserv@azgeocaching.com</a>><br>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, May 05, 2007 6:27 AM<br>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Az-Geocaching] Adopting a
cache<br>
>><br>
>> A) Caches are un-archived all the time,
occasionally under just <br>
>> such a scenario.<br>
>> B) You are talking to the wrong guy, you need
to contact<br>
>> RadRunner, our approver.<br>
>> C) If all else fails, put a new cache in the
same spot. I know <br>
>> it's nice to keep the old history, so maybe
you will have to call<br>
>> your cache 'A tribute to 'All Aboard' Gone'.<br>
>> D) After reviewing the cache page, it appears
there is something <br>
>> more to the story. Perhaps a local business
owner has contacted<br>
>> Groundspeak about the cache?<br>
>><br>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>><br>
>><br>
>> Steven Stringham wrote:<br>
>>> The reality is that the methods are there
to dearchive and then adopt.<br>
>>><br>
>>> So, the question is, what is the reasons
that Michael is stepping in. <br>
>>> This is odd for the Community relations
folks to do this.<br>
>>> * Has someone in the cache area requested
that the cache die?<br>
>>> * Is there a change in GC policy? (Older
caches must die, whatever). <br>
>>> * Is he just a pain in the .... and wants
to give you grief.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Contact Michael directly?<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Bob & Linda Smith wrote: <br>
>>><br>
>>>> OK everyone, I need to find out why an
archived cache can't be<br>
>>>> un-archived so the adopt program can
be used. I am trying to get a<br>
>>>> cache back on line that the original
owner can no longer maintain. I <br>
>>>> was told by Michael LaPaglia at GC.com
that once a cache is archived it<br>
>>>> can not be un-archived. I
am pretty sure that I read somewhere that a<br>
>>>> cache could be un-archived and brought
back on line. If you want to <br>
>>>> look at the cache on line the way
point is GCJWPV<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Bob and Linda Smith, Team Petite Elite<br>
>>>> <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Prescott</st1:City>,
<st1:State w:st="on">AZ</st1:State></st1:place><br>
>>>> <br>
>>>><br>
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