I can only speak for myself, but I can relay comments from my buddy who just came through from Hawaii..<br><br> " In Hawaii, where I cache, a hint is a genuine hint designed to help the cacher if they do not find it without it. "
<br><br> He was astounded at the amount of 'Under a Rock' hints when he had nothing but rocks in 20 ' of any direction from ground zero. He found many of the hints 'Bring water' 'Log a DNF for a hint' and others of the sort to be rather insulting, but he also stated he is from Hawaii and is not used to the "desert style" of caching where the intent is to see how many DNFs you can get on a single cache.
<br><br> Yes, I get very frustrated with the under a rock hints.. Duh its southern arizona Desert and nothing but rocks for 1/4th a mile from the coordinates? Ya think?<br><br> -Your cache, your goals. <br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">
On 1/24/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Jared Ross</b> <<a href="mailto:jaredmross@yahoo.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
jaredmross@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">
<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">I guess I should have clarified a bit more. Often I'm contacted for a hint before I even have a chance to contact the cacher (probably because I specifically tell them to contact me for an additional hint after posting a DNF). I don't believe I've sent a hint to someone without asking them first. I usually contact them and ask what area they were searching and if they'd like a hint or like me to check on it.
<br><br>So do you think I'm being prejudice to out of state cachers by saying that you must log a DNF before receiving an "additional" hint. Keep in mind that a helpful hint is already given.<br><br>Jared<br>
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<<a href="mailto:azcachemeister@getnet.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">azcachemeister@getnet.com</a>><br>To: <a href="mailto:listserv@azgeocaching.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
listserv@azgeocaching.com</a><br></span><span>Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 8:36:27 PM<br>Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] decrypted hints<br><br></span><div><span>
This is my biggest problem with 'log a DNF...' or 'Email me if you need
a hint'.<br>
It's like a big red flag saying, 'This cache is for locals only, if
you're from out-of-town, forget it!'<br>
My biggest gratification is getting a log on one of my caches from
someone who thought it was interesting enough to include while they
were on vacation/visiting Arizona.<br>
Giving a good hint is an art, and not always easy. A good hint should
spark a thought, or at least narrow down the possibilities, but
shouldn't just spell out the cache location.<br>
My favorite hints for 'remote' caches have warned me to watch for
dangerous wildlife, or admonished me to bring plenty of water...too
late now, I'm already here!<br>
Oh, and I never 'automatically' send a hint if there is a DNF, some
cachers don't want them! If I want/need an extra hint, I'll ask...<br>
<br>
ShadowAce wrote:
<blockquote type="cite"> So log a DNF to get a hint is better in your opinion.
While I hate driving 200 miles round trip to log a DNF to get a hint.
Thus making it a 400 mile round trip cache. <br>
<br>
Sometimes people forget that others who do not live within 10 miles of
the cache may come looking for it. On more then one occation we have
been caching across the states (not just in Arizona) with no computer
access for a few days and we cannot log a DNF until we are 200 + miles
from the location. That hint is going to be extremly helpful at this
time.
<br>
<br>
Naw, its better to be able to give your friends a hint via phone calls
and anyone else can suffer cause it's fun.<br>
<br>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 1/24/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Jared Ross</b> <
<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:jaredmross@yahoo.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">jaredmross@yahoo.com</a>>
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<div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Jared
missed the point, I guess. I thought you were saying that we didn't
need to put hints because we could just call someone instead. My bad.<br>
<br>
Oh, I'm aware of worse "hints" than the email for a hint ones. I
require a DNF to be logged before extra hints are given, but I don't
encrypt it in the hint section, that would be mean.<br>
<br>
Jared<br>
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