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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I thought the same thing about the median,
but accepted the fact that we couldn’t do so safely. Especially with the
fact that I worked for the Highway Patrol at that time, and dealt all the time
with ‘pedestrians on the highway’ and the headache they would
cause, legitimate reason or otherwise. I know that for certain bike races
and the like, that DPS is brought on for traffic closures when those race
segments affect the highway, and perhaps that resource could be tapped for this
too. The circumstances are what would really need to be worked out
though, but with proper planning (on ADOT’s part) it might actually
happen.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Apryl Clark<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, February 10, 2006
9:34 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> listserv@azgeocaching.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Az-Geocaching] FUN!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>I do
understand that however I think that due to the fact that ADOT can't seem to
get the median cleaned it also reflects badly on the Geocachers. It's not
like there's a sign that proclaims that ADOT is responsible for the median only
the fact that we're responsible for the trash pickup. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>And I
understand that Sportrac/k is pursuing this avenue with ADOT but in the year
I've been helping to clean the median it has gotten worse and worse. This just
coicides with the fact that ALL the freeways in the Phoenix Metro and
surrouding city area's are going to heck. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>Apryl<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=1 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:Tahoma'>From: <i><span style='font-style:
italic'>"Brian Casteel" <bcasteel@uccinc.net></span></i><br>
Reply-To: <i><span style='font-style:italic'>listserv@azgeocaching.com</span></i><br>
To: <i><span style='font-style:italic'><listserv@azgeocaching.com></span></i><br>
Subject: <i><span style='font-style:italic'>Re: [Az-Geocaching] FUN!</span></i><br>
Date: <i><span style='font-style:italic'>Fri, 10 Feb 2006 08:50:25 -0700</span></i><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thats very bad juju to do that.
ADOT has strict rules that govern the Adopt-A-Highway program, requiring that
volunteers stay >10 away from the road when picking up trash (of course
you can get a little closer to pile it up), and median cleanup is expressly
forbidden for obvious safety reasons. Sport Trac/k is asking ADOT to set
the hoops up for him, but I envision some strong resistance in approval.
Thats what Arpaios chain gangs are for. Id really rather
not read a news story about how a Geocacher was smeared across a chunk of asphalt
while at a volunteer cleanup event.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Take it for what its worth, but with
an attitude that would involve recruiting others with the purpose of violating
a policy put in place for the safety of those who choose to volunteer their
time, is tantamount to blatantly ignoring No Trespassing signs in order to make
the short trip to get a cache, or taking an ATV into a wilderness area.
Of course you arent supposed to, and remember that while anyone is out
there cleaning up trash, you are representing Geocachers, as evidenced by the 2
very large signs proclaiming this. I originally signed up for the program
not only to help maintain a degrading section of highway, but also for the PR
it brings Geocaching, hoping that in some small way, it would have an impact on
TPTB in creating favorable policy toward Geocaching as a whole when that time
came. Id also hate to see one of my former colleagues (aka Highway
Patrol) pulling up and writing citations to cachers for being in the
median. For safety sake, should it be permitted, a cruiser may very well
have to block a lane of traffic to create a buffer for anyone over there once
permitted to do so.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I would urge anyone considering
circumventing the policy on safety to seriously reconsider it given the
potential ramifications.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Brian<br>
Team A.I.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
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az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Apryl Clark<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, February 10, 2006
8:35 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> listserv@azgeocaching.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Az-Geocaching] FUN!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>I'm thinking if one of us is willing to watch out for
cars we could dash out there and grab an item or 2?? I know we're not supposed
to but....you're also supposed to floss after you brush...<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:8.5pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>From: <i><span style='font-style:italic'>Brian
Casteel <bcasteel@uccinc.net></span></i><br>
Reply-To: <i><span style='font-style:italic'>listserv@azgeocaching.com</span></i><br>
To: <i><span style='font-style:italic'>listserv@azgeocaching.com</span></i><br>
Subject: <i><span style='font-style:italic'>Re: [Az-Geocaching] FUN!</span></i><br>
Date: <i><span style='font-style:italic'>Thu, 09 Feb 2006 22:37:34
-0700</span></i><br>
>Sorry to spoil your vision, but that's just roadkill.<br>
><br>
>Brian<br>
>Team A.I.<br>
><br>
><br>
>Team Tierra Buena wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > Wow, the median! How much fun can one group of geocachers stand?
This,<br>
> > I assume, will be available just in time for the August event? One
can<br>
> > but fantasize about the aromas wafting across the summer breeze<br>
> ><br>
> > See ya Sunday!<br>
> ><br>
> > Steve<br>
> ><br>
> > Team Tierra Buena<br>
> ><br>
> > -----Original Message-----<br>
> > *From:* az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com<br>
> > [mailto:az-geocaching-bounces@listserv.azgeocaching.com] *On Behalf
Of<br>
> > *Sport Trac/k<br>
> > *Sent:* Thursday, February 09, 2006 20:52<br>
> > *To:* listserv@azgeocaching.com<br>
> > *Subject:* [Az-Geocaching] FUN!<br>
> ><br>
> > Dont forget the CITO event this weekend!!!!<br>
> ><br>
> > FUN, FUN, FUN! OK, maybe not but it is still important!<br>
> ><br>
> > I am also pursuing permission to clean the median in a future event<br>
> > because it looks terrible I have some hoops to jump through though.<br>
> ><br>
> > See everyone there!<br>
> ><br>
> > Will<br>
> ><br>
> > Sport Trac/k<br>
> ><br>
> >
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