[Az-Geocaching] A new way to fake the numbers.

[Jared Ross]

<rebuttal>
Couldn't agree with Bill more. I've taken the last few
minutes to "cool off" after reading your original post
but my hands are still shaking with the jump in blood
pressure. I obviously take this somewhat personal
since AZFastFeet and I enjoy going FTF hunting
together. It started when we were working together, we
would leave for caches together, drive there together,
search together, and find together. Being a mere
milisecond off from when one of us finds it to the
other makes no difference to us. So sorry if you think
this calls our WHOLE caching record in to question,
but just go ahead and audit us Cache Officer, I
thought you were one of the first cachers against
people trying to "police" others. And don't start
thinking it's all about the competition, if you want,
I'll stop recording what # of FTF it is for me. That's
really for more of my personal records anyways, but it
just helps to have it attached to the log that it
corresponds to. There's an added adrenaline rush in
finding a cache first, for me anyway. Seeing that
blank log, it's just a thrill. Not sharing the FTF
with the person(s) who I shared all that excitement
with is just wrong.
</rebuttal>

You keep caching your way, we'll keep caching ours.

Jared

--- Bill Nolan <bill at freeholder.com> wrote:

> Well, this is kind of why I don't log finds at all. 
> The whole competitive
> numbers thing just doesn't float my boat.  Suppose
> that I go out cachine
> today with a friend.  We are in the same car.  We
> are working together.  We
> head for a cache, park the car, and hike to it
> together.  (There will
> probably be a hike.  I don't do urban caches.)  We
> arrive there at the same
> time.  You want us to maybe flip a coin?  Well, no
> flipping way.  We found
> it together.  It is a co-find.  I see nothing wrong
> with that.
> 
>  
> 
> Bill in Willcox
> 
>  
> 
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> numbers.
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>  
> 
> [rant] Now, just what in the heck is this garbage
> about "Co-FTF" or a
> "Shared FTF" I have been seeing on cache pages
> lately? Just when I thought I
> saw it all, another new way to inflate the numbers
> comes along. What a
> cheatin' way to pump up the FTF count!!
> 
>  
> 
> Listen, there is NO such thing. The cacher who signs
> the logsheet FIRST
> should be the only one to claim the FTF. The other
> cacher is SECOND-TO-FIND.
> It is a fact of cache-finding that cannot be
> changed. 
> 
>  
> 
> Anyone claiming a "Co-FTF" or "Shared FTF" casts
> doubt on the rest of their
> caching record, in my opinion...of course, so do the
> people who hide caches
> under sock puppet accounts and then go claim a find
> on them, or people who
> claim finds because they simply "got close", or did
> maintenance on a cache
> and posted another find on it, etc, etc...the list
> goes on and on... [/rant]
> 
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