[Az-Geocaching] Re: Cache Pirates

Andrew Ayre listserv@azgeocaching.com
Sun, 4 May 2003 17:45:42 -0700


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Personally I think this kind of thing goes with Geocaching. You don't hear
of people who take up skateboarding complaining of grazed knees and how it
has totally spoilt it for them. Leaving things lying around for whatever
reason invites people to take them. Accept it and have fun with Geocaching.
If you don't like it then just seek caches. You cannot exclude the people
who are selfish, rude, childish and inconsiderate from a public activity
unfortunately.

Andy



  -----Original Message-----
  From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of gale and
mike
  Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2003 5:33 PM
  To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
  Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Re: Cache Pirates


  "You raise an interesting point. Exactly what crime has been committed
here? It would be really hard to call this theft when it comes right down to
it. None of the items are of any real value, and they are things that people
have intentionally left out for other people to take. "




  No he is not commiting a crime, which is why I did not suggest charging
him with crimes. However he does seem to be abusing the privileges of the
website and he upset at least one new Arizona cacher who wrote on the forums
last night that their family loves this sport and now some creep has to
spoil it. They seemed  quite upset. All I did was ask TPTB to check him out.
I seem to recall hearing that they've limited someone's access to the
website for doing this before. Since there is no crime, and you don't care
about the McToys, would you prefer all geocachers ignore what he is doing?
And since when does something have to be a crime before it is considered
unacceptable behavior? What ever happened to good manners? What's the
difference between plundering a cache and stealing the ammo can,  leaving
the only the logbook behind? Some of you are upset when that happens, yet
they can be replaced for only a few dollars.





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