[Az-Geocaching] For the Caching gods
Jason Poulter
listserv@azgeocaching.com
Thu, 10 Apr 2003 13:15:53 -0700
ya we have a paypal account
i should prob put a link on the web site front page... a couple people
have actually donated a while back too...
donate@azgeocaching.com
jason
snaptek
azgeocaching.com
Bill Tomlinson wrote:
> I'm in. Do you guys have a paypal account?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
> [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of Regan
> Smith
> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 11:24 AM
> To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] For the Caching gods
>
>
> I say we all donate a $ to Jason and Brian
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Groover" <andy@britishideas.com>
> To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 11:15 AM
> Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] For the Caching gods
>
>
>
>>Personally I am torn about registering. The impression I have gotten
>>over the last year and a half of the people who run the geocaching.com
>>web site is not very favourable (which I won't go into here), however
>>I get a great deal or fun out of the site. I don't like giving money
>>to people I don't think I like, but I see that running a web site for
>>free is
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> hard/impossible.
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>>So I've been stuck in this quandry ever since the "charter membership"
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> thing
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>>appeared.
>>I guess if they turned around and said "we are going to implement X, Y
>>and
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> Z
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>>to make it easier for handicap people to gague the real accessiblity
>>of a cache" (of which I have posted ideas on the site in the past)
>>then that would definately give me a big enough push to register. As
>>for anything else, I don't know...
>>
>>Sigh....
>>
>>Andy
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
>>[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of
>>Bill Tomlinson
>>Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 10:56 AM
>>To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
>>Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] For the Caching gods
>>
>>
>>Andy,
>>
>>It would take a bit of work, but I would think that you could re-log
>>all
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> of
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>>your old finds with your new name and then delete the old finds.
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> Geocaching
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>>lets you specify the find date, so you would still have an accurate
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> history.
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>>As for geocaching.com, I doubt that the issue is hoarding data or
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> bandwidth.
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>>Both of those are already irrelevant because data is being grabbed by
>>many crawlers already and that isn't a terribly efficient mechanism.
>>I'm
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> willing
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>>to bet that the issue is simply resources. Design and implementation
>>of a system that all would be happy with could be a very difficult
>>task. Look how long it's taken just to change the numbering scheme.
>>And that's a
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> time
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>>critical issue. I imagine of more people were willing to register we
>
> would
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>>see much better services in exchange. Personally, I don't much care
>>if people choose register. We just need to be aware of the
>>implications of those decisions. I chose to register because I'm
>>interested in seeing new features like this.
>>
>>CacheLess
>>Bill Tomlinson
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
>>[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of
>>Andrew Ayre
>>Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 10:06 AM
>>To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
>>Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] For the Caching gods
>>
>>
>>I don't think the problem is so much MO caches as the fact that
>>geocaching.com appears IMO to want to horde the data and not share it
>>with sites like azgeocaching.com by providing a backdoor entry into
>>specific sections of the database. I cannot see how providing access
>>to the AZ only caches would cause a problem for geocaching.com (in
>>terms of rivalry worries, etc - I'm sure it would increase the
>>bandwidth used).
>>
>>We recently changed our name from "Groover" to "Team Spike". This has
>>completely messed up our team stats on the azgeocaching.com site, as
>>it relies on reading cached pages. Well, archived caches never get
>>their
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> pages
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>>re-cached, therefore those caches will eternally be attributed to
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> "groover"
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>>on azgeocaching.com, wheras the actual data in the geocaching.com
>>database must be correct.
>>
>>As a result I've resorted to making a copy of all log entries on my
>>own
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> web
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>>site, so at least I have a copy of my own data that I can manipulate
>>in my own database and know it is always correct and accurate.
>>Unfortunately I don't have time to write code to generate graphs and
>>other wonderful stuff that can be found on azgeocaching.com.
>>
>>Andy
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
>>[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of
>>Scott Nicol
>>Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 9:33 AM
>>To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
>>Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] For the Caching gods
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Ok. I don't usually fuss with much, but this one definetly irritates
>>me. I am one of those 'numbers' cachers. I do enjoy looking at the
>>stats and the numbers (for my own pleasure of course, not for
>>competitive purposes). I
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> am
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>>a bit annoyed that 9 of my in state cache finds now show up as out of
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> state.
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>>This is the result of 8 AZ caches becoming 'members only' caches.
>>These
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> are
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>>caches that previously (when I found them), where not MO. What happens
>>is that the AZgeocaching.com site is not a member, therefore it doesnt
>>crawl the MO cache pages. (that is what I have heard anyways). At any
>>rate, the
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> AZ
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>>stats doesnt recognize Arizona MO caches and they show up in the out
>>of state file. (anyone who knows me knows that I have 0 out of state
>>finds
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> and
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>>probably always will!).
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>>I personally beleive that if a cache is started out as a 'free' cache,
>>it should remain that way for the life of the cache. If someone
>>chooses to
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> make
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>>their caches members only, they should do so with only the new caches
>>that they place and not turn all their old caches into MO caches. I
>>know Highpointer recently commented on this on the listserve a few
>>days ago and that he was going to change his caches over to MO. I
>>understand his views
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> on
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>>the subject. However, Highpointer...I feel you should keep your old
>>caches open to all and if you want members only, perhaps only turn
>>your new ones into MO. The other problem I have with old caches
>>changing into MO... I no longer can look back on those caches and read
>>my logs (diary if you will)
>
> of
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>>my experiences at those caches (as I am not a member of
>>geocaching.com;
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> that
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>>is a whole nuther' thread, I am sure!). I hope Highpointer will
>>reconsider changing his old caches back to non-MO.
>>
>>I have always enjoyed doing Highpointer's caches, he hides some good
>>ones.
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> I
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>>also very much appreciate his seeking my cache on Stewart Mountain and
>>the comments he left there. I think me and Highpointer share many of
>>the same views on geocaching and enjoy doing the same types of caches.
>>
>>I guess I will not be able to do anymore of Highpointer's caches as I
>>am
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> not
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>>a member of geocaching.com. However, I have no problem with his making
>>his new caches MO, Members Only caches are available as an option to
>>members
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> of
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>>geocaching.com and that is an option that is available to him to use
>>if he chooses to. I just wish he would reconsider and keep his older
>>caches open to all.
>>
>>Scott
>>Team Ropingthewind
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>From: Brian Cluff <brian@snaptek.com>
>>>Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
>>>To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
>>>Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] For the Caching gods
>>>Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 08:12:21 -0700
>>>
>>>Yes, if caches are being moved to members only that were previously
>>>available to anyone, they will show up as out of state.
>>>
>>>Brian Cluff
>>>Team Snaptek
>>>
>>>Regan Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Would the new out of state finds be a result of the Member Only
>>>>Caches?
>>
>>
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