[Az-Geocaching] McDowell Sonoran Preserve

Fri, 4 Apr 2003 22:08:12 -0700

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Do you have a cache list of the caches that should be removed?
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Team Tierra Buena=20
  To: Arizona Geocaching=20
  Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 8:49 PM
  Subject: [Az-Geocaching] McDowell Sonoran Preserve

  At a regularly scheduled meeting of the McDowell Sonoran Preserve =
Commission held earlier this evening, the Commissioners, by a voice =
vote, denied a request to reconsider their policy prohibiting the =
placement of Geocaches within the McDowell Sonoran Preserve. They agreed =
to post a statement of their policy on the Preserve Commission web page =
(http://www.scottsdaleaz.gov/boards/MSPreserve/default.asp).=20

  =20

  The Commissioners made it very clear that the first mandate of the =
Preserve is preservation. The Commission is not going to allow any =
activity which involves going off-trail.  They are also quite open about =
the fact that they are going to avoid setting any precedent that risks =
opening a wider door in the future. By that reasoning, they hold that =
even a cache that is right next to the trail is still off-trail. They =
are also opposed to having any contemporary non-natural objects within =
the preserve, except for those placed for such reasons as safety, =
directions, etc. Those are their major reasons behind their denial of =
reconsideration, as best as I am able to summarize them.

  =20

  I would urge any of you who have placed caches within the Preserve to =
remove them soon.  My best guess is that there will be a not very long =
grace period before confiscation efforts begin.

  =20

  Steve

  Team Tierra Buena

  =20

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Do you have a cache list of the caches =
that should=20
be removed?</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dteamtierrabuena@earthlink.net=20
  href=3D"mailto:teamtierrabuena@earthlink.net">Team Tierra Buena</A> =
</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
  title=3Daz-geocaching@listserv.azgeocaching.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:az-geocaching@listserv.azgeocaching.com">Arizona =
Geocaching</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, April 03, 2003 =
8:49=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Az-Geocaching] =
McDowell Sonoran=20
  Preserve</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua" size=3D3><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'">At a regularly =
scheduled=20
  meeting of the McDowell Sonoran Preserve Commission held earlier this =
evening,=20
  the Commissioners, by a voice vote, denied a request to reconsider =
their=20
  policy prohibiting the placement of Geocaches within the McDowell =
Sonoran=20
  Preserve. They agreed to post a statement of their policy on the =
Preserve=20
  Commission web page (<A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.scottsdaleaz.gov/boards/MSPreserve/default.asp">http:/=
/www.scottsdaleaz.gov/boards/MSPreserve/default.asp</A>).=20
  <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua" size=3D3><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Book =
Antiqua'"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua" size=3D3><SPAN=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'">The =
Commissioners made it=20
  very clear that the first mandate of the Preserve is preservation. The =

Commission is not going to allow any activity which involves going =
off-trail.=20
 &nbsp;They are also quite =
open about=20
 the fact that they are going to avoid setting any precedent that risks =
opening=20
 a wider door in the future. By that reasoning, they hold that even a =
cache=20
 that is right next to the trail is still off-trail. They are also =
opposed to=20
 having any contemporary non-natural objects within the preserve, =
except for=20
 those placed for such reasons as safety, directions, etc. Those are =
their=20
 major reasons behind their denial of reconsideration, as best as I am =
able to=20
 summarize them.<o:p></o:p>
 <SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Book =
Antiqua'"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>
 <SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'">I would urge =
any of you=20
 who have placed caches within the Preserve to remove them soon. <SPAN=20
 style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;My best guess is that there =
will be a=20
 not very long grace period before confiscation efforts=20
 begin.<o:p></o:p>
 <SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Book =
Antiqua'"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>
 <SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Book =
Antiqua'">Steve<o:p></o:p>
 <SPAN=20
 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'">Team Tierra=20
 Buena<o:p></o:p>
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