[Az-Geocaching] introduction

Holmes, Richard listserv@azgeocaching.com
Mon, 23 Sep 2002 07:44:26 -0700


Welcome, Heather. Sometimes caches seem to evade you no matter how hard you
try. I think we've found some pretty tough ones, but we still haven't found
Sparky's Stash. 

Dick & Carole
Creepin' Jeepers 

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: YAALWP!  (Yet Again Another Long-Winded Posting!) (Chelby Geiss)
   2. RE: introduction (Farquhar, Larry)
   3. RE: Az-Geocaching digest, Vol 1 #696 - 10 msgs (Chris Eldridge)

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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 22:47:10 -0700
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] YAALWP!  (Yet Again Another Long-Winded
Posting!)
From: Chelby Geiss <chelby@desertsol.com>
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com

GEOMENTOR!  I love it!!!
Thanks for the suggestion!  I had a team log a no find on one of my 
caches today.  After your suggestion, I looked up his team and found 
they only have 5 finds...so I took the opportunity to email him and 
offer my support!
Thanks Steve for yet another great idea!
BTW, we missed you today at the picnic!:(
C:)
Team desertSol
Chelby & Kevin
+
Kiva and Lancer (German Shepherds)
Apache Junction, AZ
www.desertsol.com/~chelby/geocaching


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Message: 2
From: "Farquhar, Larry" <larry.farquhar@ipni.com>
To: "'listserv@azgeocaching.com'" <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] introduction
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 05:44:33 -0700
Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com

Welcome to this addictive game and the list serve Heather (Darsantre)! I
think we all share in your frustration at not finding some caches. We've
been there many times. But that's part of the game/hobby/sport.

If you can't find a cache, feel free to ask this list, or anyone of us
individually for help. We'll normally answer your Email privately to keep
disclosing too much to everyone. I know I'm not too proud to ask for help on
certain caches I can't find. Currently, I have 4 caches in the Phoenix area
I've visited (some more than once) and still can't find them!

As you get more experience, you'll start thinking more like the people
hiding them (usually). It makes finding them easier. However, every once and
awhile, someone comes up with a new idea or a new twist. We're constantly
surprised at where we find caches.

Hope to see you on the trails sometime!
Larry Farquhar
Team "Wyle E"
www.happy-wanderers.com


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From: Heather Drake [mailto:h3rdr8k@ispwest.com] 
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2002 9:47 PM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] introduction


Hiya to all you AZ geocachers!

My name is Heather (I go by Darsantre in my log sigs) and I just wanted to
introduce myself.  I'm new to this sport/hobby and first heard about it on
channel 12 news.  After seeing that report, I thought to myself 'hey, I can
do this!'  So I bought a Garmin eTrex and went out searching.  Boy has this
been a challenge!  I found my first cache on Sept. 14; in 8 days I've found
10 caches.  And I've been doing some serious looking!

I know to you experienced cachers, the urban cachers are "just too easy,"
but I'm getting frustrated at my lack of finding the "easy" ones.  Some
sites I've been to about 5 times and still haven't come across the cache
containers.  However, I love the fact that I'm up early and out of the house
on the weekends and _doing_ something interesting that I'm finding
challenging and enjoyable!

A little about me:  I'm 32, single, a professional educator, have two
wonderful woofies (a Black Lab & a Lhasa Apso), love to travel, speak German
and Spanish, and am working on a second Master's degree at ASU.

I've been telling my sister in England and friends in Belgium, Hong Kong,
Germany and Kazakhstan about this sport.  They've all told me to visit them
and they would gladly join me in the hunt. :)

Well, I'm sorry that I missed the potluck today, but I hope to meet other
cachers soon!

Bye for now,
Darsantre


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Message: 3
From: "Chris Eldridge" <cweldridge@cox.net>
To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 07:00:03 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] RE: Az-Geocaching digest, Vol 1 #696 - 10 msgs
Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com



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Today's Topics:

   1. Are the urban caches getting out of hand? (Loran  Wilcox)
   2. Re: Open Invitation to all  and CHICKS with  TRUCKS a challeng...
(Regan Smith)
   3. Re: Open Invitation to all  and CHICKS with
       TRUCKS a challeng... (Scott Wood)
   4. Re: Are the urban caches getting out of hand? (Scott Wood)
   5. Re: Open Invitation to all and CHICKS with TRUCKS a challeng... (mike
and gale jett)
   6. Personal Waypoints (Larry Farquhar)
   7. RE: PDA POLL!!! (Justin Sever)
   8. Re: Are the urban caches getting out of hand? (Brian Cluff)
   9. RE: RE:PDA (Justin Sever)

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Message: 1
From: "Loran  Wilcox" <loranwilcox@chartermi.net>
To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 12:10:54 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Are the urban caches getting out of hand?
Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com

I know I'm gone but I just have to say my piece.

I have learned a lot about hiding urban caches but are a little concerned
about hinding them here in Michigan.

Early on the urban caches where creative and seemed to add to the sport of
geocaching. Lately they have become just another number in our stats. My
concern is that new cachers will find them uninteresting and unchallenging
and never really join the sport. Pretty much the same way I fell about
benchmarks and why I don't search for them.

There have been a lot of caches placed, that where placed for just the sake
of placing a cache or caches that were to close to other caches. Such as 15
feet apart or 4-5 caches in the same park.

The bottom line is there are just too many easy cahes that require almost no
skill to get to or find. Also there are just too many caches too close
together. How else could some one find 45 in a day. I beleive a fairly new
caher would be able to find over 100 in a 24 hr period..

Remember all cachers are the cache police. It is up to all of us to make
geocaching better. We are the ones that will either make this sport or break
it.

Take critisium in stride and use it to better the sport not kill it.

Geocaching will be what we make.

Loran (Team Saand Dollar)



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Message: 2
From: "Regan Smith" <buggers@mindspring.com>
To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Open Invitation to all  and CHICKS with  TRUCKS
a challeng...
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 12:30:25 -0700
Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com

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Scott
 I in no way implied archive them all just those that have no reason for =
being there other than being there... and as they refer to this game... =
you place a cache it needs to be found...

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Scott Wood=20
  To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
  Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2002 9:57 AM
  Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Open Invitation to all and CHICKS with =
TRUCKS a challeng...


  At 06:44 AM 9/22/2002 -0700, you wrote:

    I look forward to the picnic as well =20
    =20
     I  as a cacher who has found several of their caches decided to =
offer suggestions but for some unknown reason they took it as an attack, =
it is sad that they took the archive approach as they had some nice =
areas to visit...

  I have been trying to come up with a reply to your original post as =
well, but Kelly of Team Roadrunners pretty much said everything that I =
would have said.

  I think they might have gotten upset because of the somewhat elitist =
sound your message had.  It is frankly none of your business how they =
place their caches, and you have no right to ask them to archive any of =
their caches.  While some of their caches might be open to some =
criticism, others have been enjoyable caches.  The reality of the matter =
is that if I don't like the way that they hide caches, I just won't go =
and look for them.  You said that they would have the respect of the =
geocaching community if they archived their caches.  You don't speak for =
me, or for the geocaching community for that matter, none of us do.  CwT =
have my respect because they took the time to go out and hide caches for =
people to find.  I don't care if they are easy urban caches, or harder =
rural ones, I enjoy finding both.

  Far too many people seem to want to turn themselves into Cache Police =
for some reason.  I can't see this as being a positive for this game.



  Scott
  Team My Blue Heaven
  www.myblueheaven.com/geocache
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 12:58:50 -0700
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
From: Scott Wood <wood@myblueheaven.com>
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Open Invitation to all  and CHICKS with
  TRUCKS a challeng...
Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com

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At 12:30 PM 9/22/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Scott
>  I in no way implied archive them all just those that have no reason for
> being there other than being there... and as they refer to this game...
> you place a cache it needs to be found...

It is simply your opinion that the cache has no reason to be there.  Some
people can only find caches that are the easier urban caches.  An example
is a friend of mine who is getting interested in geocaching.  Sadly his
wife has MS and she can't walk for very far.  Easier urban caches, that are
there for no other reason could be there so that people who can't get out
in the outdoors have an excuse to get out and get whatever exercise they
can.


In liberty,

Scott

wood@myblueheaven.com
www.myblueheaven.com

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<font face="arial" size=2>&nbsp;I in no way implied archive them all just
those that have no reason for being there other than being there... and
as they refer to this game... you place a cache it needs to be
found...</font></blockquote><br>
It is simply your opinion that the cache has no reason to be there.&nbsp;
Some people can only find caches that are the easier urban caches.&nbsp;
An example is a friend of mine who is getting interested in
geocaching.&nbsp; Sadly his wife has MS and she can't walk for very
far.&nbsp; Easier urban caches, that are there for no other reason could
be there so that people who can't get out in the outdoors have an excuse
to get out and get whatever exercise they can.<br><br>
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<div>Scott</div>
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 13:00:43 -0700
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
From: Scott Wood <wood@myblueheaven.com>
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Are the urban caches getting out of hand?
Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com

At 12:10 PM 9/22/2002 -0700, you wrote:

>Take critisium in stride and use it to better the sport not kill it.

I agree with you on many aspects of your message, but when you tell someone
that they will get respect from fellow geocachers if they archive the
caches that someone might not like, that is taking this all a little too
far.


In liberty,

Scott

wood@myblueheaven.com
www.myblueheaven.com



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Message: 5
From: "mike and gale jett" <sonoralovesmommy@hotmail.com>
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Open Invitation to all and CHICKS with TRUCKS a
challeng...
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 23:18:59 +0000
Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com

To Chicks with Trucks. We wish we had read the e-mails before we came to the
picnic to offer you our support. Our team too took criticism for caches and
still feel stung by it. Quite frankly a few cachers do sound elitist and
that is not what we are looking for in this sport. One of our team has
physical limitations and cannot do the difficult (terrain) caches. We accept
that and find other ways to amuse ourselves. We enjoyed your caches and felt
you gave to the game as much as you took from it. Please replace your
caches. We haven't felt able to speak much about caching since we are new to
it ourselves, but we couldn't be silent after reading the e-mails.


>From: "Regan Smith" <buggers@mindspring.com>
>Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
>To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
>Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Open Invitation to all  and CHICKS with
>TRUCKS a challeng...
>Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 12:30:25 -0700
>
>Scott
>  I in no way implied archive them all just those that have no reason for
>being there other than being there... and as they refer to this game... you
>place a cache it needs to be found...
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Scott Wood
>   To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
>   Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2002 9:57 AM
>   Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] Open Invitation to all and CHICKS with
>TRUCKS a challeng...
>
>
>   At 06:44 AM 9/22/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>
>     I look forward to the picnic as well
>
>      I  as a cacher who has found several of their caches decided to offer
>suggestions but for some unknown reason they took it as an attack, it is
>sad that they took the archive approach as they had some nice areas to
>visit...
>
>   I have been trying to come up with a reply to your original post as
>well, but Kelly of Team Roadrunners pretty much said everything that I
>would have said.
>
>   I think they might have gotten upset because of the somewhat elitist
>sound your message had.  It is frankly none of your business how they place
>their caches, and you have no right to ask them to archive any of their
>caches.  While some of their caches might be open to some criticism, others
>have been enjoyable caches.  The reality of the matter is that if I don't
>like the way that they hide caches, I just won't go and look for them.  You
>said that they would have the respect of the geocaching community if they
>archived their caches.  You don't speak for me, or for the geocaching
>community for that matter, none of us do.  CwT have my respect because they
>took the time to go out and hide caches for people to find.  I don't care
>if they are easy urban caches, or harder rural ones, I enjoy finding both.
>
>   Far too many people seem to want to turn themselves into Cache Police
>for some reason.  I can't see this as being a positive for this game.
>
>
>
>   Scott
>   Team My Blue Heaven
>   www.myblueheaven.com/geocache




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Message: 6
From: "Larry Farquhar" <lfar@cox.net>
To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 17:39:16 -0700
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Personal Waypoints
Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com

Jason - Brian;

It was great meeting the masterminds of Arizona's customized geocaching
web site again. Again, I wanted to thank you for all you've been doing
for us. I know this has been a lot of work for you. Especially with the
recent changes.

I checked out my personal waypoints this afternoon, and all works well
now. Disregard the problems we talked about at the picnic. I knew you
guys would be on top of things, and you had it fixed already. Great Job!

Larry Farquhar
Team "Wyle E"
www.happy-wanderers.com


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Message: 7
From: "Justin Sever" <justinsever@hotmail.com>
To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] PDA POLL!!!
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 19:35:18 -0700
Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com

I use my Compaq iPAQ 3835.   It is running PocketPC 2002, I have 96 MB
of Memory (32 ROM, 64 RAM).    I do use your downloadable pages with the
logs when I'm geocaching out of the Phoenix Metro area.    When I'm just
geocaching around town, I use the PocketQueries from geocaching.com's
website.

-Frobro Goose

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From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
The Toshiba PDA is awesome.  It has so many features and runs the Windows
OS.  I also believe it has the wireless network built into it.  I know that
some of the newer IPAQs have that feature, but I am putting my money on the
Toshiba.  Can you say "Great Christmas Gift".

Boonie of Team GreenBug
Chris Eldridge

Message: 9
From: "Justin Sever" <justinsever@hotmail.com>
To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] RE:PDA
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 20:08:40 -0700
Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com

I just want to give my $0.02 about the Palm / CE Debate.   The first PDA
I owned was a Palm III, I then upgraded to the Palm V and now have a
iPAQ 3835.   I love my new PocketPC PDA, however the reliability is
pretty shaky.   I have noticed some problems with the iPAQ though.   The
biggest is the backlighting not coming on all the time, and even when
you turn it on manually, it still has problems turning on.  As far as
the OS, I'm rebooting the thing almost every other day (It is windows,
what can you expect), however the integration with the Outlook, Word,
Excel, Access, are great.   Also ViaVoice is wonderful program on there.
The space is also a big plus.   I guess to sum it up, if I had to buy
another PDA in the future, I probably wouldn't buy a iPAQ, but would
look for something with PocketPC OS or something that you could load
Linux on.  (Toshiba is making a pretty nice one now).

-Frobro Goose

-----Original Message-----
From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of
skydad
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 12:25 PM
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] RE:PDA


Just a couple thoughts on PDA - The iPAQ has an incredible screen for
outdoors viewing plus has way too many advantages over a Palm type
machine to recount.  It has great GPS software for cars (Travel Route)
and planes
(Anywhere).   The iPAQ provides for a quick download and nothing like
listening to a few MP3's or qatching a movie short while on your search.
We also download pics from geocaching.com right into the iPAQ so we do
not have to print our final destination.  You can keep fighting
Microsoft till your blue in the face but put Windows CE besides Palm
operating system and you have the difference of night and day.

The Lunch Club

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Subject: Az-Geocaching digest, Vol 1 #693 - 2 msgs


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>    1. Re: PDA POLL!!! (Mark Heitowit)
>    2. RE: PDA POLL!!! (Brian Cluff)
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> Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 20:32:39 -0700
> From: Mark Heitowit <mheitowit@usa.net>
> To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] PDA POLL!!!
> Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
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> My Sony Clie works well, most Sony's come standard with 16 MB of
> memory. I had a b/w one which broke (dropped it on a cache). Returned
> it under the extended warranty and upgraded to the color model. I have

> a 128 MB memory stick. If you store the book on the memory stick, it
> is very very very
very
> slow on accessing the index page. Fry's electronics has it on sale now

> for $244 I believe.  Best Buy has a better extended warranty and they
> price match.
>
> Also if you use a memory stick, you can buy a reader, I got one on
> Ebay
for
> $20 that reads 6 different types of memory cards, so it work with my
digital
> camera cards also. The card reader transfers the AZ Active, with logs
> to
the
> memory stick in under 3 seconds. The hot sync directly to the internal

> memory used to take minutes.
>
> Ask if you have any other questions.
>
> Mark, Magical Memories
>
> Team Tierra Buena wrote:
>
> >
> > > if you have a pda could you please reply with your
> > >
> > > Make & Model
> > > OS (i.e Palm, WinCE, PocketPC, etc...)
> > > Memory
> >
> > Palm m130 PalmOS 4.1, 8 Meg.
> >
> > Which is why I don't use the Snaptek cache page download anymore
> > <sniffle>. We like having the log entries, but can't get the entire
> > state on our machine. I would love to get rid of the MobiPocket
> > reader that Jeremy uses (I think there's some symbolism in software
> > name; it sounds SO much like a big whale), but for us the ability to

> > select which pages we're downloading outweighs the disadvantages.
> >
> > Now, that said... We are thinking about upgrading our PDA. There are

> > three reasons for this:
> >
> > 1. We'd like to get more memory so we CAN download the Snaptek
> > files. 2. We'd like to find a screen that has brighter display
> > outdoors. And most important: 3. Palm is offering FULL REFUNDS
> > (purchase price and tax) to m130 owners who want to return them (If
> > you own one and don't know about this, see
> > http://www.palm.com/support/m130program/).
> >
> > So, who's got a PalmOS machine that will say they have great
> > readability outdoors? And if it isn't a Palm brand, please let me
> > know what software you use for the desktop. (And no thanks, I'm not
> > interested in WinCE machines; I already get more than my share of
> > Microsoft aggravation on the desktop).
> >
> > Thanks in advance for your assistance.
> >
> > Steve
> > Team Tierra Buena
> >
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> Message: 2
> Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] PDA POLL!!!
> From: Brian Cluff <brian@snaptek.com>
> To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
> Date: 20 Sep 2002 20:59:56 -0700
> Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
>
> There is always the Zaurus... that runs Linux right out of the box,
> and runs very well, then there is the iPAQ that you can load linux
> onto as well, in fact you can put the exact same thing as the iPAQ.
>
> The advantages are that you can support any piece of hardware that
> linux itself can.  Which is a hell of a lot more that palm, CE or
> PocketPC can support.  You also can draw from a HUGE amount of
> software... much more than any handheld.... (You can run Quake on
> one.) With the iPAQ you also get a huge amount of expandibility.
>
> ...but that would just be my preference
>
> Brian Cluff
> Team Snaptek
>
> On Fri, 2002-09-20 at 20:21, Team Tierra Buena wrote:
> > So, who's got a PalmOS machine that will say they have great
> > readability outdoors? And if it isn't a Palm brand, please let me
> > know what software you use for the desktop. (And no thanks, I'm not
> > interested in WinCE machines; I already get more than my share of
> > Microsoft aggravation on the desktop).
> >
> > Thanks in advance for your assistance.
> >
> > Steve
> > Team Tierra Buena
>
>
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