[Az-Geocaching] what makes a good cache

Jason Poulter listserv@azgeocaching.com
Mon, 09 Sep 2002 10:09:58 -0700


it is really called an email list server... but peoples is to lazy and 
just call it a listserv....  or at least i do anyway...

jason


Jerry Nelson wrote:
> No doubt, the best caches take you to someplace previously unknown.  I've
> been to caches less than four miles from my home that showed me places I
> never would have been aware of, and I've lived in the same neighborhood
> since 1957!  I also travel to the Midwest every summer and usually take
> the same route home.  A couple weeks ago I found myself in my usual motel
> in Chamberlain, South Dakota, where I usually get in with just enough
> time to eat, take a shower and fall asleep in front of the TV.  This year
> there happened to be a cache placed at the edge of town overlooking the
> Missouri River that took me to a fantastic view of sunset from an old,
> abandoned railroad track.  It's a place I'll probably return to every
> time I find myself in the area.
> 
> Geocaching appears to be pretty silly to some people not involved, but it
> doesn't take long to realize that this is one of main attractions of the
> game.  I've placed some caches where I think people will like the
> surroundings and one which certainly falls in the "stats only" category. 
> It's sometimes as much or more fun to place a cache as it is to find one,
> and it's good to keep reminding ourselves to try to put just a little
> thought into those we hide.
> 
> Here's an off topic question.....not really I guess :o)  What is the
> proper word for this thing we're communicating on, a listserv, listserve
> or listserver?
> 
> Jerry
> Offtrail
> 
> 
> On Mon, 09 Sep 2002 01:11:31 -0700 "Scott Nicol" <arizcowboy@hotmail.com>
> writes:
> 
>>
>>
>>>From: "loran wilcox" <loranwilcox@cox.net>
>>>Reply-To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
>>>To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
>>>Subject: Re: [Az-Geocaching] what makes a good cache
>>>Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 23:22:35 -0700
>>>
>>>The best caches are those that introduce you to a new area. Without 
>>
>>these 
>>
>>>there are many places in Arizona I would have never seen.
>>>
>>>I don't need an ammo box with lots of stuff to make a cache good. 
>>
>>The good 
>>
>>>caches are those that someone has put some thought into. Hiding it 
>>
>>in 
>>
>>>someplace special, finding a new way to hide the cache, or making a 
>>
>>game of 
>>
>>>it with a puzzle or some other twist.
>>>
>>>The worst caches are the copycats where a person just feels the 
>>
>>need to 
>>
>>>hide a cache.
>>>
>>>I am probably the worst one here in the valley at playing the 
>>
>>numbers game 
>>
>>>but I just have this need to go after any new cache. And I will go 
>>
>>after 
>>
>>>all caches I can. I don't like all the caches I find. Some are as 
>>
>>Cody 
>>
>>>stated nothing more than "it counts as a find". Some people have 
>>
>>wondered 
>>
>>>how I am able to find so many caches. First I have been out of work 
>>
>>but 
>>
>>>beyond that when I can find 14 caches in 4 and 1/2 hours they are 
>>
>>just too 
>>
>>>easy and/or too close together.
>>>
>>>As I am leaving the area I will not have much influence on this 
>>
>>area but I 
>>
>>>truly believe that more thought needs to be put into the placement 
>>
>>of 
>>
>>>geocaches. I know there is that need to place a cache and a simple 
>>
>>one near 
>>
>>>home for the first cache is probably acceptable.  But later hides 
>>
>>need to 
>>
>>>show more thought.
>>>
>>>For the new cachers out there, wait awhile before you hide a cache 
>>
>>to learn 
>>
>>>some of the tricks. This will make the game more enjoyable for 
>>
>>everyone. 
>>
>>>Don't worry about a negative karma number. If you look closely the 
>>
>>most 
>>
>>>driven cachers have the highest negative karma (with exceptions). 
>>
>>It 
>>
>>>doesn't mean a thing. No one expects you to hide a lot of caches. 
>>
>>They only 
>>
>>>want you to hide good caches.
>>>
>>>Have I said to much?
>>>
>>>Loran (Team Sand Dollar)
>>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
>>hhhhhhmmmmmmm... what makes a good cache.... "Any cache that I can 
>>find is a 
>>good cache!" :) LOL LOL LOL :)
>>
>>Seriously. I agree with Loran's post totally. No one could have said 
>>it 
>>better.
>>
>>Team RTW is hoping to get out next weekend to hide our very first 
>>cache (!). 
>>We have 331 cache finds and none hidden. (You want to talk about 
>>Cache 
>>Karma!?) :O  We want our first cache hide to be a special one. There 
>>are a 
>>few places that we want to hide our first cache and we have been 
>>waiting 
>>quite a while to place it utilizing my hot air balloon in a given 
>>location. 
>>However, we have waited this long and the opportunity doesnt seem to 
>>be 
>>around the corner anytime soon. So, we are going to put it in 
>>another one of 
>>those few places. The place we want to hide it is a place we have 
>>looked at 
>>many, many times as we have driven by it and have always wanted to 
>>hike to 
>>this location. There is something at this location that has always 
>>interested us. We have never been there so we don't know what it is. 
>>But, we 
>>want to hike there to find out. We are going to put our first cache 
>>near 
>>this location. That gives the cache a reason for location. There is 
>>a bit of 
>>thought needed for us to hide it as well as for those that will seek 
>>this 
>>cache out. As I am kinda 'old school', it will be a coordinates 
>>takes you to 
>>the cache (ammo box) kinda cache. However, the views should be 
>>awsome and 
>>well worth the adventure getting there. Enough said. No more hints! 
>>:)
>>
>>We will also bring along 2 GPS's to allow each to average out to get 
>>the 
>>best possible coordinates. I will use a Garmin and a Magellan GPS. 
>>Hopefully 
>>we can provide very accurate coordinates. We will then confirm the 
>>coordinates using a 7.5' topo as well.
>>
>>As far as contents... that is still up for debate. Have a couple of 
>>themes 
>>that we are thinking about. Still deciding which one! :)
>>
>>Anyways, these are just some thoughts in my mind I thought I would 
>>share 
>>with those newcomers (without many finds) that are thinking about 
>>hiding a 
>>cache soon. Put some thought into it, know where you are putting it 
>>in terms 
>>of landowner issues and a seekers ability to access the cache 
>>location, and 
>>also take special care to provide the best possible coordinates.
>>
>>On another note: Loran. Sure gonna miss ya' bud! Geocaching will 
>>just not be 
>>the same around here without ya'! Enjoyed the opportunity to talk 
>>with you 
>>at some of the caches we have been at together as well as our joint 
>>cache 
>>hike up to Thompson Peak Cache. I guess this is the only way I will 
>>ever 
>>catch up to you though! :) LOL  I am hoping we can get our first 
>>cache hid 
>>next weekend so just maybe you can get one last cache in before you 
>>leave! 
>>;) We would really like for you to get the first find on it too! :)  
>>If not, 
>>we hope you will get back out Arizona way and visit our cache 
>>sometime. 
>>Enjoy Michigan and I wish you all the best for your new job and new 
>>life in 
>>Michigan.
>>
>>Scott
>>Team Ropingthewind
>>
>>
>>
>>
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