[Az-Geocaching] what makes a good cache

loran wilcox listserv@azgeocaching.com
Sun, 8 Sep 2002 23:22:35 -0700


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The best caches are those that introduce you to a new area. Without =
these there are many places in Arizona I would have never seen.

I don't need an ammo box with lots of stuff to make a cache good. The =
good caches are those that someone has put some thought into. Hiding it =
in someplace special, finding a new way to hide the cache, or making a =
game of it with a puzzle or some other twist.

The worst caches are the copycats where a person just feels the need to =
hide a cache.

I am probably the worst one here in the valley at playing the numbers =
game but I just have this need to go after any new cache. And I will go =
after all caches I can. I don't like all the caches I find. Some are as =
Cody stated nothing more than "it counts as a find". Some people have =
wondered how I am able to find so many caches. First I have been out of =
work but beyond that when I can find 14 caches in 4 and 1/2 hours they =
are just too easy and/or too close together.

As I am leaving the area I will not have much influence on this area but =
I truly believe that more thought needs to be put into the placement of =
geocaches. I know there is that need to place a cache and a simple one =
near home for the first cache is probably acceptable.  But later hides =
need to show more thought.=20

For the new cachers out there, wait awhile before you hide a cache to =
learn some of the tricks. This will make the game more enjoyable for =
everyone. Don't worry about a negative karma number. If you look closely =
the most driven cachers have the highest negative karma (with =
exceptions). It doesn't mean a thing. No one expects you to hide a lot =
of caches. They only want you to hide good caches.

Have I said to much?

Loran (Team Sand Dollar)

----- Original Message -----=20
  From: teamcbx2=20
  To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
  Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 8:55 PM
  Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] what makes a good cache


  Stepping up to soapbox...

  Cheryl and I visited 14 caches today along with 2 not founds.  We =
visited some very cool cache sites and a couple that had absolutely no =
thought, planning, or creativity involved.  These are a waste of my =
time, your time, and everyone involved.  Yes it counts as a find, but =
thats it.  I would like to ask our fellow cachers to please put some =
thought into their caches.  At this rate, we'll have an altoid tin =
hidden on every corner of the city.  There are countless magnificent =
places here in Arizona as well as right here in the valley.  Please seek =
these out and share them with the Geocaching community. =20

  Stepping down,
  Cody
  Team CBX2



    -----Original Message-----
    From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com =
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]On Behalf Of =
WOLFB8
    Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 8:20 PM
    To: listserv@azgeocaching.com
    Subject: [Az-Geocaching] what makes a good cache


    With a increased number of geocacher in Arizona we have a increased =
number of people hiding caches. I was just wondering what people =
consider a good cache and a cache to just to add to your stats. I am not =
looking for names of caches. ( I do not want to hurt anyone feeling =
including mine if you think they suck) so if we were to break it down in =
to=20

    for stats only

    almost good

    good

    I will remember this one

    great

    Hopefully this can be a tool for the cacher out there who want to =
hide a cache or 2

    Libby
    We will be known by the tracks we leave behind


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The best caches are those that =
introduce you to a=20
new area. Without these there are many places in Arizona I would have =
never=20
seen.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I don't need an ammo box with lots of =
stuff to make=20
a cache good. The good caches are those that someone has put some =
thought into.=20
Hiding it in someplace special, finding a new way to hide the cache, or =
making a=20
game of it with a puzzle or some other twist.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The worst caches are the copycats where =
a person=20
just feels the need to hide a cache.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am probably the worst one here in the =
valley at=20
playing the numbers game but I just have this need to go after any new =
cache.=20
And I will go after all caches I can. I don't like all the caches I =
find. Some=20
are as Cody stated nothing more than "it counts as a find". Some people =
have=20
wondered how I am able to find so many caches. First I have been out of =
work but=20
beyond that when I can find 14 caches in 4 and 1/2 hours they are just =
too easy=20
and/or too close together.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As I am leaving the area I will not =
have much=20
influence on this area but I&nbsp;truly believe that more thought needs =
to be=20
put into the placement of geocaches. I know there is that need to place =
a cache=20
and a simple one near home for the first cache is probably =
acceptable.&nbsp; But=20
later hides need to show more thought. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>For the new cachers out there, wait =
awhile before=20
you hide a cache to learn some of the tricks. This will make the game =
more=20
enjoyable for everyone. </FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Don't worry =
about a=20
negative karma number. If you look closely the&nbsp;most =
driven&nbsp;cachers=20
have the highest negative karma (with exceptions). It doesn't mean a =
thing. No=20
one expects you to hide a lot of caches. They only want you to hide good =

caches.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Have I said to much?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Loran (Team Sand Dollar)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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  <A title=3Dteamcbx2@ev1.net =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, September 08, =
2002 8:55=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Az-Geocaching] =
what makes a=20
  good cache</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D440343403-09092002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2>Stepping up to soapbox...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D440343403-09092002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D440343403-09092002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2>Cheryl and I visited 14 caches today along with 2 not =
founds.&nbsp; We=20
  visited some very cool cache sites and a couple that had absolutely no =

  thought, planning, or creativity involved.&nbsp; These are a waste of=20
  my&nbsp;time, your time, and everyone involved.&nbsp; Yes it counts as =
a=20
  find,&nbsp;but thats it.&nbsp; I would like to ask our fellow cachers =
to=20
  please put some thought into their caches.&nbsp; At this rate, we'll =
have an=20
  altoid tin hidden on every corner of the city.&nbsp; There are =
countless=20
  magnificent places here in Arizona as well as right here in the =
valley.&nbsp;=20
  Please seek these out and share them with the Geocaching =
community.&nbsp;=20
  </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D440343403-09092002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D440343403-09092002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2>Stepping down,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D440343403-09092002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2>Cody</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D440343403-09092002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Team=20
  CBX2</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D440343403-09092002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
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color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D440343403-09092002><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
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    <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
    size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
    az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com=20
    [mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com]<B>On Behalf =
Of=20
    </B>WOLFB8<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, September 08, 2002 8:20 =
PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
    listserv@azgeocaching.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Az-Geocaching] what =
makes a=20
    good cache<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>With a increased number of =
geocacher in Arizona=20
    we have a increased number of people hiding caches. I was just =
wondering=20
    what people consider a good cache and a cache to just to add to your =
stats.=20
    I am not looking for names of caches.&nbsp;( I do not want to hurt =
anyone=20
    feeling including mine if you think they suck) so if we were to =
break it=20
    down in to </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>for stats only</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>almost good</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>good</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I will remember this =
one</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>great</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hopefully this can be a tool for =
the cacher out=20
    there who want to hide a cache or 2</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Libby</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>We will be known by the tracks we leave behind</DIV>
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