[Az-Geocaching] Death of geocacher Mike Curtin (a.k.a. FHR
Rangers) due to heat in Orange County, CA
Brian Cluff
listserv@azgeocaching.com
03 Sep 2002 22:13:03 -0700
Could we get a list of those 10 things, it could be good for a general
FAQ for geocaching in arizona
Brian Cluff
Team Snaptek
On Tue, 2002-09-03 at 20:57, trisha@brasher.com wrote:
> <semi-soapbox>
>
> I agree, this unfortunate death is a very very sad occurance. A real
> eye-opener for anybody who thinks "oh, it's only a short hike" and
> doesn't take the basics with them.
>
> In our search and rescue posse, we are required to have a pack ready
> at all times with the "ten" (+) essentials and gear we need. We are
> not allowed to exit the vehicle to search on foot (no matter how short
> we think it will be) without our packs, which include our hand held
> radios. Common sense says that is a good idea for anybody.
>
> Just yesterday, my daughters tried to talk me into a 1.2+ mile hike
> (one-way) down a steep canyon to get a cache (Money Drop). My girls
> don't have the concept of the necessary "UP" when looking "DOWN"! I
> had not planned any hike-caches so therefore did not have packs,
> boots, etc (we had water in the truck of course) so I had to tell them
> NO, No, several times (Teenagers!!). Even tho' it was not as hot at
> this higher elevation, it is still a recipe for disaster to venture
> out unprepared.
>
> My sympathies go out to this man's family. What a shame.
>
> Trisha "Lightning"
> Preskitt AZ
>
> </semi-soapbox>
>
>
>
>
>
> Jim Scotti wrote:
>
> >
> > Sad to hear about the death of a fellow geocacher. Good reminder of
> > the
> > dangers of being out in the backcountry. I'd guess that the rates of
> > cachers
> > getting into trouble will be similar to those of regular hikers.
> > Besides
> > those of us who are a bit more aware of the dangers, there are many
> > who are
> > relatively inexperienced outdoors amoungst our number (I'd guess
> just a
> > little bit less than amoungst the average hikers, but probably not
> > that much
> > different). We also have that extra incentive to get to the cache
> > which
> > might make us a little too vulnerable to the "go fever"
> syndrome that
> > could
> > take us a little too far. Good to remember that we are all human and
> > there
> > are many ways nature can get you.
> >
> > Jim.
> >
> > On 3 Sep 2002, Brian Cluff wrote:
> >
> > > Does anyone know if this is the first geocaching to die while
> > > geocaching?
> > > This is the first that I can remember. Considering the number
> of
> > > cachers in the world, that would make us some of the most
> resposible
> > > people out there.
> > > Or in other words we take plenty of water so that we can make
> sure
> > that
> > > all the garbage that we are hauling onto archeology sites
> actually
> > gets
> > > there, and we get back home save, so we can trash another site
> on
> > > another day.
> > >
> > > Brian Cluff
> > > Team Snaptek
> > >
> > > On Tue, 2002-09-03 at 17:09, ken@highpointer.com wrote:
> > > > The geocacher who died this weekend due to heat-related
> causes in
> > Orange County, California was Mike Curtin, who went by the user name
> > of FHR Rangers. The death was reported by geocacher seminary7 in a
> > posting on the Groundspeak forum.
> > >
> > >
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> > Jim Scotti
> > Lunar & Planetary Laboratory
> jscotti@pirl.lpl.arizona.edu
> > University of Arizona
> > Tucson, AZ 85721 USA
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