[Az-Geocaching] RE: grrrrrrrrr more mis information from the site stewards
Ken
listserv@azgeocaching.com
Thu, 7 Nov 2002 19:48:52 -0700
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Message I agree it is nice to see that there are rational minds among =
the Site Stewards. I think the most disturbing comment that Shelly =
Rasmussen made in the November issue of the Site Stewards newsletter is =
contained on page 8 & 9. In this section of the newsletter Shelly =
apparently has formed her own little anti geocaching group that she =
calls "Stewards Against Geocaching Archaeological Sites" (SAGAS). Her =
comments and extremely narrow views regarding our hobby appear to be =
deliberate acts to try and tear down the positive efforts that have been =
made to resolve conflicts. I think she is a very poor representative for =
a program that has very honorable intentions and I do not understand her =
blatant hatred of our hobby. She states in her column that no geocaches =
have been removed which is not true. Shortly after the meeting with the =
land managers I archived two of my caches that were near archaeological =
sites . Shelly fails to mention this fact in the newsletter.=20
Ken
WhereRWee?=20
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From: Team Tierra Buena=20
To: listserv@azgeocaching.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 8:06 PM
Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] RE: grrrrrrrrr more mis information from =
the site stewards
Jill,
Permit me to add my thanks for your post. It is comforting to know =
that we are not the objects of universal hostility among the Site =
Stewards.
Steve
Team Tierra Buena
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From: az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com =
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] On Behalf Of Jill =
McCormick
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 5:06 PM
To: az-geocaching@listserv.azgeocaching.com
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] RE: grrrrrrrrr more mis information from the =
site stewards
I just wanted to put in my two cents on this issue. I have been =
reading the messages regarding the article in the AZ Watch written by =
Shelly Rasmussen. I am a site steward and would like to say that she =
does not represent all site stewards, in fact, I think most site =
stewards disagree with her views. I do not geocache myself, but hope to =
in the near future. I am the regional coordinator for the Yuma Region =
and have an avid geocacher in my group. I also have a few sites with =
caches near them, but I have never had any trouble with vandalism at =
these sites. As a site steward our job is to monitor and carry out the =
wishes of the land managers, not be the police, judge, and jury =
regarding geocaching. As I understood it from speaking with Mary Estes, =
you had a productive meeting on September 27th, and had high hopes for =
future cooperation. I also understand that many landmanagers have no =
problem with geocaching, nor do they have policies against it. Please =
do not allow Ms. Rasmussen's comments to undo the good that has been =
done. I plan to speak to Mary Estes myself and ask her to no longer =
allow Ms. Rasmussen to publicly speak as if she was speaking for all =
site stewards. Hopefully this will put an end to this issue. Keep up =
the good work.
Sincerely,
Jill McCormick=20
Regional Coordinator Yuma-Quartzsite
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial> I agree it is nice to see =
that there=20
are rational minds among the Site Stewards. I think the most disturbing =
comment=20
that Shelly Rasmussen made in the November issue of the Site Stewards =
newsletter=20
is contained on page 8 & 9. In this section of the newsletter =
Shelly=20
apparently has formed her own little anti geocaching =
group that she=20
calls "Stewards Against Geocaching Archaeological Sites" (SAGAS). Her =
comments=20
and extremely narrow views regarding our hobby appear to =
be=20
deliberate acts to try and tear down the positive efforts that have =
been=20
made to resolve conflicts. I think she is a very poor =
representative for a=20
program that has very honorable intentions and I do not =
understand her=20
blatant hatred of our hobby. She states in her column that no geocaches =
have=20
been removed which is not true. Shortly after the meeting with the land =
managers=20
I archived two of my caches that were near archaeological sites . =
Shelly=20
fails to mention this fact in the newsletter. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Ken</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>WhereRWee?</FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dteamtierrabuena@earthlink.net=20
href=3D"mailto:teamtierrabuena@earthlink.net">Team Tierra Buena</A> =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dlistserv@azgeocaching.com=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, November 06, =
2002 8:06=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Az-Geocaching] =
RE:=20
grrrrrrrrr more mis information from the site stewards</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D414150003-07112002><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua"=20
color=3D#0000ff>Jill,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D414150003-07112002><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua"=20
color=3D#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D414150003-07112002><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua"=20
color=3D#0000ff>Permit me to add my thanks for your post. It is =
comforting to=20
know that we are not the objects of universal hostility among the Site =
Stewards.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D414150003-07112002><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua"=20
color=3D#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D414150003-07112002><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua"=20
color=3D#0000ff>Steve</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D414150003-07112002><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua"=20
color=3D#0000ff>Team Tierra Buena</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D414150003-07112002><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua"=20
color=3D#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D414150003-07112002></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original =
Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com">az-geocachi=
ng-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com</A>=20
[mailto:az-geocaching-admin@listserv.azgeocaching.com] <B>On Behalf Of =
</B>Jill McCormick<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, November 06, 2002 5:06=20
PM<BR><B>To:</B> =
az-geocaching@listserv.azgeocaching.com<BR><B>Subject:</B>=20
[Az-Geocaching] RE: grrrrrrrrr more mis information from the site=20
stewards<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
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solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I just wanted to put in my two =
cents on this=20
issue. I have been reading the messages regarding the article =
in the=20
AZ Watch written by Shelly Rasmussen. I am a site steward and =
would=20
like to say that she does not represent all site stewards, in fact, =
I think=20
most site stewards disagree with her views. I do not geocache =
myself,=20
but hope to in the near future. I am the regional coordinator =
for the=20
Yuma Region and have an avid geocacher in my group. I also =
have a few=20
sites with caches near them, but I have never had any trouble with =
vandalism=20
at these sites. As a site steward our job is to monitor and =
carry out=20
the wishes of the land managers, not be the police, judge, and jury=20
regarding geocaching. As I understood it from speaking with =
Mary=20
Estes, you had a productive meeting on September 27th, and had high =
hopes=20
for future cooperation. I also understand that many landmanagers =
have no=20
problem with geocaching, nor do they have policies against =
it. =20
Please do not allow Ms. Rasmussen's comments to undo the good that =
has been=20
done. I plan to speak to Mary Estes myself and ask her to no =
longer=20
allow Ms. Rasmussen to publicly speak as if she was speaking for all =
site=20
stewards. Hopefully this will put an end to this issue. =
Keep up=20
the good work.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sincerely,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jill McCormick </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Regional Coordinator=20
Yuma-Quartzsite</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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