[Az-Geocaching] Bass Ackwards Cache

[loran @cox]

Scott

> Geez, and just when we thought we might finally beat Loran to a first! ;)

You could try "Musicbox" by n4/c . I went out there today and couldn't find
it. But then again this is only my third no find and the other two where not
at the coordinates so I couldn't find them.  So is it really there at the
coordinates listed.

Loran (Team Sand Dollar)

I was thinking of doing Bronco Butte or Let me Breath for #300. I'm only 15
away. Interested?



----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Nicol <arizcowboy@hotmail.com>
To: <listserv@azgeocaching.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 8:12 AM
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Bass Ackwards Cache


> >From: "Hap McDaniel" <happeninghap@hotmail.com>
> >To: arizcowboy@hotmail.com
> >Subject: Re: ropingthewind contacting you from Geocaching.com
> >Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 20:10:38 -0700
> >
> >Hi Scott,
> >Bass Ackwards is no longer there. Sorry. NPS did'nt like it.
> >                        hap
> >
> >Hap McDaniel
> >Phoenix AZ USA
> >602-909-8672
> >n.33.51559
> >w.112.12347
> >happeninghap@hotmail.com
> >www.geocities.com/happeninghaps
> >
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Howdy AZ geocachers,
>
> Some sad news as I awake this morning to read my emails. Above is the
email
> from Hap McDaniel in response to my email to him about the Bass Ackwards
> Cache. You know, the cache that is over 530 days old without a find! That
is
> the official news from the cache owners mouth.
>
> Am I the first geocacher to actually inquire to the cache owner about this
> cache? Team Ropingthewind has been planning and plotting for a couple of
> weeks now for an attempt at this cache this upcoming weekend. But, we can
> rest now! We have wanted to do it for several months now but the North Rim
> of the Grand Canyon is closed for the winter and didnt reopen until May
> 10th. We hoped to do it last weekend, but, business changed our plans. So,
> this was to be the weekend.
>
> For those wishing to know... there was a trail to the cache. North Bass
> Trail. It appears to be a little used trail. I sent another email to
inquire
> about the condition of that trail, but, havent gotten a response as of
yet.
> That was still our big question. Where did the trailhead start and could
we
> drive to it? The cache appeared to be only about 400' off the trail
> (according to my mapping software). No permits were needed except for
> overnight stays (backcountry permit). It is possible to hike to the bottom
> of the canyon and back up in one LONG day. I have done it (even though the
> National Park says over and over on it's web site that it shouldnt be
> attempted). Day hiking did not require a permit. Just a park entrance fee.
>
> Geez, and just when we thought we might finally beat Loran to a first! ;)
>
> Well, I am kinda bummed. We were excited about possibly being the first to
> that cache. We are only 4 caches away from the big #200 and we were hoping
> to make Bass Ackwards #200! Hmm. Maybe Bronco Butte?
>
> I wonder why no one else ever even inquired about this cache to the cache
> owner? I wonder why it was never archived? It appears the cache owner
works
> for the NPS? It appears there are 2 other caches in the canyon. One near
the
> bottom of the Bright Angel Trail (perhaps?). I wonder what the status of
> those caches are since the NPS does not allow caches on their land?
>
> A question to ponder: if a cache is found at least once every 24 hours,
does
> that make it not abandoned property? If I remember from a past post on the
> list here, someone said the NP does not allow caches because they consider
> it abandoned property and property cannot remained unattended for more
than
> 24 hours (or something like that). SO, if someone places a cache on NP
land
> that is pretty easily accessible and close to a city (like Saguaro NP in
> Tucson), as long as there was a daily found log on that cache, would the
NP
> service be in the wrong to remove it (for at least as long as it remains
> found on a daily basis)? This probably isnt realistic though. But, just
> pondering a question. There might just be a loophole here!
>
> Scott
> Team Ropingthewind
>
>
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