[Az-Geocaching] Re: What we place in Urban Caches
RAND HARDIN
listserv@azgeocaching.com
Mon, 9 Dec 2002 18:29:19 -0700
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I'm wondering why, if this woman is so worried about her 10 year old son,=
is she allowing him to wander around parks without her! After all! he c=
ould fall off some playground equipment, step on a piece of glass, find a=
poisonous critter, or get hit by a car on the way home!
We do need to use common sense in what we place in caches, but most of th=
ese little pocket knives are no sharper than most everyday items that man=
y children come in contact with. I think she just wanted an excuse to ke=
ep the knife!
Rand
(RandMan) =20
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From: ken@highpointer.com
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 5:56 PM
To: Listserv@azgeocaching.com
Subject: [Az-Geocaching] Re: What we place in Urban Caches
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Subject: [Az-Geocaching] What we place in Urban Caches
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I just received an email from a non geocacher that her 10 year old son fo=
und in the park. She wrote "my 10 yr old son has found your cashe and br=
ought it home to me. sorry to have messed up your game. your log book,=
a pencil, 2 cards, a
keychain and a small pocket knife are inside. I will return your cashe t=
o the park, but not sure of the actual location, not to mention... I real=
ly don't feel right about leaving a knife in the park for a kid to find.=
(justaMy opinion) so... took knife, left peace of mind. 12/09/02 good=
hunting."
What is this parent so paranoid about? I remember back when I was a Cub =
Scout, and only 8 years old (I'm not ancien! t - I'm in my 30's now so I =
was a Cub Scout in the liberal 1970's), I wore my Cub Scout uniform to sc=
hool with a pocket knife attached to the belt. One of the activities tha=
t we did as Cub Scouts was whittling with the pocket knife. And this was=
when I was 10 years of age or younger.
Therefore, I cannot see how a small pocket knife in a cache should cause =
any problems whatsoever. Perhaps the parents should just show their kids=
how to properly use a knife. That's what parents and other adults did wi=
th me when I was that kid's age. A small pocketknife, used properly, is =
a very useful tool and is considered an essential piece of equipment for =
hikers, campers and other outdoors people. (For example, see the list of=
10 essentials of things to take on a hike by the Colorado Mountain Club =
- pocket knife is #8).
I'm not a parent, but I have two young nephews and a niece scheduled to b=
e born later this week, and I wouldn't hesitate to give any of them a sma=
ll pocket knife as a gift - and I don't believe that their parents (two a=
re my brother's kids, one is my sister's) would be opposed in any way. (=
I'm suspicious of the parenting skills of that mother who confiscated the=
cache, but that's just my opinion).
Ken (a.k.a. Highpointer)
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<HTML><BODY STYLE=3D"font:10pt verdana; border:none;"><DIV>I'm wondering =
why, if this woman is so worried about her 10 year old son, is she allowi=
ng him to wander around parks without her! After all! he could=
fall off some playground equipment, step on a piece of glass, find =
a poisonous critter, or get hit by a car on the way home!</DIV> <DIV>&nbs=
p;</DIV> <DIV>We do need to use common sense in what we place in caches, =
but most of these little pocket knives are no sharper than most everyday =
items that many children come in contact with. I think she just wan=
ted an excuse to keep the knife!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Rand</=
DIV> <DIV>(RandMan) </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PA=
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Az-Geocaching] Re: What=
we place in Urban Caches</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <P>Subject: [Az-Geocach=
ing] What we place in Urban Caches<BR>Reply-To: <A href=3D"http://us.f211=
.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?To=3Dlistserv@azgeocaching.com&YY=3D72761&=
amp;order=3Ddown&sort=3Ddate&pos=3D0&view=3Da&head=3Db">l=
istserv@azgeocaching.com</A><BR><BR><EM>I just received an email from a n=
on geocacher that her 10 year old son found in the park. She wrote =
"my 10 yr old son has found your cashe and brought it home to me. s=
orry to have messed up your game. your log book, a pencil, 2 =
cards, a<BR>keychain and a small pocket knife are inside. I will re=
turn your cashe to the park, but not sure of the actual location, not to =
mention... I really don't feel right about leaving a knife in the park fo=
r a kid to find. (justaMy opinion) so... took knife, left peace of =
mind. 12/09/02 good hunting."</EM><BR><BR>What is this =
parent so paranoid about? I remember back when I was a Cub Scout, a=
nd only 8 years old (I'm not ancien! t - I'm in my 30's now so I was a Cu=
b Scout in the liberal 1970's), I wore my Cub Scout uniform to school wit=
h a pocket knife attached to the belt. One of the activities that w=
e did as Cub Scouts was whittling with the pocket knife. And this w=
as when I was 10 years of age or younger.</P> <P>Therefore, I cannot see =
how a small pocket knife in a cache should cause any problems whatsoever.=
Perhaps the parents should just show their kids how to properly us=
e a knife. That's what parents and other adults did with me when I w=
as that kid's age. A small pocketknife, used properly, is a very us=
eful tool and is considered an essential piece of equipment for hikers, c=
ampers and other outdoors people. (For example, see the list of <A =
href=3D"http://www.cmc.org/cmc/hike_eqp.html">10 essentials</A> of things=
to take on a hike by the <A href=3D"http://www.cmc.org/">Colorado Mounta=
in Club</A> - pocket knife is #8).</P> <P>I'm not a parent, but I have tw=
o young nephews and a niece scheduled to be born later this week, and I w=
ouldn't hesitate to give any of them a small pocket knife as a gift - and=
I don't believe that their parents (two are my brother's kids, one is my=
sister's) would be opposed in any way. (I'm suspicious of the pare=
nting skills of that mother who confiscated the cache, but that's just my=
opinion).</P> <P>Ken (a.k.a. Highpointer)</P></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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