[Az-Geocaching] Destruction of geological site(s?)

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 Just so you are not taken by surprise tomorrow when you look at your =
stats.. I have made a lot of my caches member only today..... so if you =
have some on your to-do list do not delete the waypoint since they will =
not be there=20

I will make them public again when this blows over


Libby

We will be known by the tracks we leave behind
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  Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 9:10 AM
  Subject: RE: [Az-Geocaching] Destruction of geological site(s?)


  I found the newspaper article very one sided and blown
  way out of proportion.  I think it was written with
  the intent of grabbing attention and selling papers
  and not with the intent of providing true and accurate
  information.

  It did not mention if any of the archeologic sites
  were open to the public such as Libby's Casa Grande
  Ruins cache or Ken's A Sign From The Past IV cache at
  Sears-Kay ruins near Seven Springs.  If those are any
  of the 18 caches at or near archeologic sites, then
  the article is blatently misleading.=20

  There was no mention of the Cache-In, Trash-Out
  program and the good it has done at many cache sites.

  One other thing that wasn't mentioned is the fact that
  there are numerous other sources of information about
  archeological sites that can be used by those intent
  on plundering.  A quick search found the following
  books available at Amazon.com that most likely mention
  remote sites.

  1. Ancient Treasures of the Southwest: A Guide to
  Archeological Sites and Museums in Arizona, Southern
  Colorado, New Mexico, and Utah, by Franklin Folsom,
  Mary Elting Folsom (Contributor), Rachel Folsom
  (Illustrator)

  2. Ancient Ruins of the Southwest: An Archaeological
  Guide by David Grant Noble (Photographer), Brad Melton
  (Editor)

  3. The Archaeology of Ancient Arizona by James
  Jefferson Reid, Stephanie Whittlesey, Jefferson Reid

  And finally, there are companies that provide tours of
  Arizona's backcountry and point out such sites. =20

  http://www.pinkjeep.com/
  "History enthusiasts will be awed by the opportunity
  to visit Authentic Native American Ruin sites, a very
  unique Sedona tour."


  http://www.archaeologicadventures.com/=20
  "We offer our guests the unique opportunity to probe
  the mysteries of the past, to touch history and feel
  it come alive while participating in a hands-on
  working field program to map and record unexplored
  archaeological sites."

  Bob Renner

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  <DIV><BR></DIV>I found the newspaper article very one sided and =
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grabbing=20
  attention and selling papers<BR>and not with the intent of providing =
true and=20
  accurate<BR>information.<BR><BR>It did not mention if any of the =
archeologic=20
  sites<BR>were open to the public such as Libby's Casa Grande<BR>Ruins =
cache or=20
  Ken's A Sign From The Past IV cache at<BR>Sears-Kay ruins near Seven=20
  Springs.&nbsp; If those are any<BR>of the 18 caches at or near =
archeologic=20
  sites, then<BR>the article is blatently misleading. <BR><BR>There was =
no=20
  mention of the Cache-In, Trash-Out<BR>program and the good it has done =
at many=20
  cache sites.<BR><BR>One other thing that wasn't mentioned is the fact=20
  that<BR>there are numerous other sources of information =
about<BR>archeological=20
  sites that can be used by those intent<BR>on plundering.&nbsp; A quick =
search=20
  found the following<BR>books available at Amazon.com that most likely=20
  mention<BR>remote sites.<BR><BR>1. Ancient Treasures of the Southwest: =
A Guide=20
  to<BR>Archeological Sites and Museums in Arizona, =
Southern<BR>Colorado, New=20
  Mexico, and Utah, by Franklin Folsom,<BR>Mary Elting Folsom =
(Contributor),=20
  Rachel Folsom<BR>(Illustrator)<BR><BR>2. Ancient Ruins of the =
Southwest: An=20
  Archaeological<BR>Guide by David Grant Noble (Photographer), Brad=20
  Melton<BR>(Editor)<BR><BR>3. The Archaeology of Ancient Arizona by=20
  James<BR>Jefferson Reid, Stephanie Whittlesey, Jefferson =
Reid<BR><BR>And=20
  finally, there are companies that provide tours of<BR>Arizona's =
backcountry=20
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  the past, to touch history and feel<BR>it come alive while =
participating in a=20
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  unexplored<BR>archaeological sites."<BR><BR>Bob=20
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